Greetings all!
I'm new here and wish to build a small quality knife collection of my own. I have a real interest in double blades especially (daggers), though not exclusively. Will those of you who obviously have more information and experience than me please give me some "pointers" (ouch, sorry for the pun)?
Information you have on how to judge quality, websites and links for purchasing would be most welcome.
Ave! ~Nephtys
p.s. special thanx goes out to Skott for having this tribe on your page. :D
I'm new here and wish to build a small quality knife collection of my own. I have a real interest in double blades especially (daggers), though not exclusively. Will those of you who obviously have more information and experience than me please give me some "pointers" (ouch, sorry for the pun)?
Information you have on how to judge quality, websites and links for purchasing would be most welcome.
Ave! ~Nephtys
p.s. special thanx goes out to Skott for having this tribe on your page. :D
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Mon, April 24, 2006 - 10:13 PMLook for good heat treatment and good quality steel. Steer clear of makers who are ambiguous about steel type or heat treatment. Something made from "the finest German stainless steel" is made from mystery steel. Something made from "S30V" will have properties that you can look up or ask folk about. Steer very clear of "secret formulas." Legitimate cutlers have nothing to hide and often take delight in debumking "secret formulas."
Look for good fit and finish. Steer clear of gaps or voids between parts of the knife (that eliminates my stuff, for now at least). Also be wary of such voids or gaps having been filled with epoxy or other sealer. Good fit and finish is a sign of attention to detail. Attention to detail is required from a quality maker.
Contact the maker, whether a factory or an individual and ask them questions about their product. If they make odd claims ("our swords ahve been famous for 2600 years" or "no other maker does this") then leave them be. If they simply give you facts and offer more help or advice, then seriously consider their product. -
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Tue, April 25, 2006 - 9:35 AMOK, so what do you look for to tell if it's good quality steel?
Any websites or books I could look for that would give me some general introduction or do you have some of that information?
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Mon, May 1, 2006 - 8:18 PMMost of these are aimed at novice (or not so novice) makers, but a collector can learn a lot from them as well.
www.cashenblades.com/Info/St...ion.html
(warning, Kevin is opinionated...)
users.ameritech.net/knives/steels.htm
ajh-knives.com/metals.html
www.knifeart.com/steelfaqbyjo.html
You'll notice that those folk are often saying the same thing about many of the steels.
Remember: steel type is only 1/4 of what goes into a good knife. One also needs a good design, good implimentation of that design, and a proper heat treatment. If we have a perfect reproduction of a design used by special forces - and with good steel for the knife type - then its still crap if its got a bad heat treatment! -
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Tue, May 2, 2006 - 2:45 AM
Erm. You *do* realize the person you are replying to has "Unsubscribed" from tribe? It would be nice to think they will come back and read the info. you provided, but it's doubtful.
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Tue, May 2, 2006 - 6:02 AMI agree the information is good to have "archived" even if the original person who made the question is gone.
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Tue, May 2, 2006 - 8:22 PMActually, they did not unsubscribed but were unsubscribed - if I understand things correctly. The replies maybe read by the orginal poster but under a new account. I have no idea if this is the case, just a possibility. So post away.
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Thu, May 4, 2006 - 6:48 PMNo. I didn't realize that at all. I apologise if I've done something bad. -
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Sat, May 6, 2006 - 2:10 AMNo, you didn't do anything "bad" or wrong. I was just pointing out that you probably wouldn't get a response from the original post-er.
It's great to have the info. However, if finding & posting this info. is taking time from something else you want to do, you can save yourself the time and trouble.. (Does that make sense? )
I just know it bothers *me*, when I go digging for info. for someone, and then they disappear before I can get back to them. But, in this case, others can benefit from the info. you gave. Thank you for taking the time to post it. :)
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Tue, April 25, 2006 - 9:38 AMOne hears a lot about how flexible a blade is, which results from a misunderstanding of the ABSA's (American Bladesmith Association) bend test for awarding journeyman or master status. A good blade does not need to bend 90 degrees without breaking. In fact, unless a knife has been designed for a function where a lot of flexibility is required (say a fish skinning knife ???), blades should be fairly stiff. A lot of flexibility is typically associated with either a poor choice of materials or over temperring.
The ABSA's bend test, is a test to determine one's skill at differential heat treating (hard edge/soft back). Done correctly, the soft back supports the hard edge thereby preventing it from breaking. The best example of this are well made katana - their edges are often in the 60-65 Rockwell C range but they have soft backs which gives flexibilty and strenght (part of that is due to engineering beyond differential heat treating). Knives that are Rockwell 60+ throughout often break easily - they have great edges but break. -
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Sat, May 6, 2006 - 8:27 PM
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Wed, November 1, 2006 - 3:17 PMQuality knives can be had from many, many of todays makers. Also most are available to speak with if what you are looking for is a custom piece vs a catalog piece.
I have a personal relationship with all of the makers who's knives I own and carry.
Just off the top of my head:
Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer Strider Knives
Ernest Emerson
James Coogler CnC Knives
Mark Terrell
Warren Thomas
Shane Seibert
Lucus Burnley
Eddie Baca
There are many knife forum/ discussion groups out there. Out of respect I won't link them here, but an internet search will reveal much.
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Re: Question re: education on knife quality
Wed, November 1, 2006 - 3:27 PMAlso there are many reputable purveyors(sp?) that not only will be happy to assist you in your purchase, but also have many makers whose knives they stock.
Again off the top of my head here are some very honorable dealers that I do buy from:
Triple Aught Design Gear www.tadgear.com
Blade Art www.bladeart.com
PMDC Tactical www.pmdctactical.com
EDC Knives www.edcknives.com
